Question 1

Which is better sound 164 or 184?  Please help and is there any clicking sound?

Accepted Answer

We tested the 164 among other brands and models at the store, and found 164 has the best sound that very similar to real piano.  We ended up buying 184 since 164 is discountinued.  We had the piano for over a week and my 6 years old daughter loves it so much and started practicing everyday.  I love piano music and am sensitive to the sound, and I am satisfied with 184's sound quality.  I agreed you wouldn't get any model lower than this.

Question 2

Are there any complaints about the arius  184? Please let me know!

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Here are my pet peeves:

1) The note B2 (one octave and half tone lower than the middle C) has some resonance. It sounds differently and a bid louder. I doubt that a real grand piano has this problem. Most likely it is the resonance frequency of the Yamaha acoustic box. If you play in headphones, B2 sounds normal. They could have compensated it electronically better. Not a big deal, but noticeable when you play beginner music, which contains less notes to be played at the same time. B2 stands out a bit.

2) I am sure it does not has to be this heavy to reproduce sounds well. I would be more forgiving the weight, if it were an ideal sound, but they could not do that for B2 anyway.

3) The hanger for the headphones has too little clearance to put my headphones in. Many headphones have wide pads on the top, so the top of the headphone is not narrow - and it will not fit into the clearance.

4) 2 headphone inputs, excellent, but it is not 3.5mm jack, but the large one. Why? I know there are adapters, but majority of the headphones uses 3.5mm. It is not studio equipment, but piano for home use. Although, I must admit it is easier to find the larger hole. But that's another problem - the hole is not easily accessible. Not a big problem, just a minor inconvenience.

5) No Bluetooth, no WiFi, can't connect iPad/iPhone through USB. There is $100 adapter for WiFi, so iPad can be connected that way, but why is it not this build into $2,500 piece? And why can't I connect to USB port directly with iPad? I am sure more people want to connect their iPads to this, than to use, for example, midi inputs/outputs (that are present). It just looks like they force you to buy this adapter to get another $100 from you, especially given the fact that the direct wired USB connection is not working (while it works on other Yamaha keyboards, per documentation on their website). It just does not feel right.

Saying all that, I just want to be clear that those are super-minor problems - I absolutely love the instrument.

Question 3

Does it come with the screws needed to assemble?

Accepted Answer

Yes.

Question 4

does the piano built in the stand?

Accepted Answer

Yes, it does and looks amazing once it has been assembled!

Item Weight	123 Pounds
Finish Type	Stained Wood
Style	184
Color	Dark Rosewood
Connector Type	USB Type B
Power Source	Usb
Headphones Jack	Present
Connectivity Technology	Interface
Special Features	Built-In Speaker, Hammer Action, Weighted Keys, Digital Display, Headphone Jack, Recording, Programmable, Duo Mode
Number of Keys	88
Skill Level	All

Yamaha Arius, Console Digital Weighted 88-Key Graded Hammer 3 Action, CFX Concert Grand Piano Sound, Includes Bench, Dark Rosewood (YDP184R)

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